Emmanuel Amevor, Director of Centerprise, speaks of the new Wordpower Black literary festival, and his vision of economic empowerment for Black businesses.
I’ve been aware of slavery since I was in secondary school, back in
It was not the type of thing that was discussed in public. Slavery is not a thing that is discussed in African families. . I remember my grandmother telling us stories, but nothing to do with slavery at all. It is not high on the agenda of African people, as it should be.
The present generation would not say that it directly affects them. They have their culture, unlike people in the
Z – We didn’t lose our culture, it was stolen from us.
EA – Yes, that is true. I stand corrected. In
It’s very difficult to explain why it is not discussed. It is discussed more in
When I left
In school, all they taught was a bit of history – the white man came and took people away, and that sort of thing. But now, I think there is greater awareness. Because of technology, there is more interaction between Africans and
There is obviously also more awareness around slavery in the States than back home. There is a lot of ignorance in the States, but those who are conscious and aware of issues, they are very much more aware of the history of slavery. Most of the books we stock here (at Centerprise) on African and
Z - Do you remember how you felt when you first heard that the Europeans had taken people away?
EA – To be honest with, it was like nothing, because I didn’t understand it. Unfortunately, the perception – and this is a flippant remark, but it is very, very serious. My mother-in-law, for instance, tells you when you are going to church and you see a white man, you’d better go home, because you’ve seen God.
Most people in this country and in the
Z – They’d be a king, wouldn’t they?
EA – Exactly. There’s a lot of ignorance. And so, the perception was that anything that the white man did was good. Even if he took someone from your family, you didn’t know what was going to happen to that person. You would think he was going to be educated, turned into a Christian, converted to be a Muslim, or whatever. So, growing up, everything we heard about the white man was the best. And unfortunately, there weren’t that many books written by Black people. Even now as we speak, the problem is still there. We have a lot of schools, colleges and universities using history books which were written by white people. So naturally, they present it from a white European point of view.
There are ways of presenting every story. But I remember very well, when I was in Year Two, between the ages of 10 and 13, I had a teacher who tried as much as possible to present the history. Although the books were saying something else, he could see through it. For instance, he took us through the Yaa Asantewa war of 1800. Although the history books were saying something else, he was able to inculcate in my mind that the Ashantes defeated the British. And from that time, he sowed a seed in my mind.
When I came to this country and I started reading a lot of books, I remembered that this man, all those years ago, had told us what really happened. He gave us a different picture of everything – that the white man was not all that great.
I think it’s still the same. We have this MTV culture now that bombards them with all sorts of nonsense. Everyone wants to travel to the
There are not that many discussion forums. So those of us who are here, who are in the struggle, I don’t think we are doing enough.
Z - What would you like us to be doing that we are not doing now?
EA - write more books, hold more discussions. At Centerprise this year, as part of the Bicentenary, we are holding an international conference – Wordpower.
Z - When you came to this country, you started reading?
EA – I came here to study accountancy. So I trained as an accountant. And instead of going back home to help my people, I was caught up in this coup d’etat in
Z – So you are culpable as well.
EA – Absolutely! Why should I criticise when I could also go there and do my bit, and I’m not doing it?
Z – So what made you decide to start reading about slavery, Black history, etc.?
EA – You need to know your past before you can move forward. It is a very emotive subject – taking people away from their communities. Coming here was an eye-opener. I never thought I could be discriminated against purely on the basis of the colour of my skin. And the Black male is under pressure left, right and centre, from the home, from the family, from the workplace, you name it. Because the white ones see us as the greatest threat.
And when you talk of racism, it’s all about economics. Because when you are allowed to sit at the same table with them, then you know how they take the greatest share. Even liberal whites. They protect their own.
People talk about issues like what happened to the Jews in
There is the issue of reparations as well. when Tony Blair was launching this Bicentenary in March, the President of Ghana, President Kufour, came out with the greatest nonsense I have ever heard – that we should forget about reparations because it’s too complicated. This guy is the Chair of the African Union. And I just wondered, what is complicated about that?
And he’s not alone. The President of Senegal, President Wabe, has the same viewpoint. It hasn’t directly affected them, so they have no good knowledge of what people have been through. If you had, or if you even understood the subject of slavery, you would not come out with such nonsense.
Z – It affected
EA – Absolutely. So for a President of Ghana who is the Chair of the OAU to come out with such a nonsense statement is quite bleak. President Kufour came to
So these are the sort of issues that confront us. As I said, this guy has not studied slavery, it has not directly affected him. So he thinks it’s all rosy. I ask myself, what is complicated about reparations? You have stolen my property, give it back! If he is talking abut the mechanics of working it out, if he hasn’t got a computer, I can lend him one.
I have always had a thirst for knowledge. When you are among your own people, you see the white man when he comes to your country, he treats you very well. And you think that’s how the white man is. Not knowing that, when he is in his own country, he won’t even sit in the same room with you.
So naturally, I wanted to learn more about the subject of slavery. It’s something that still affects me. Most of the problems of Black people – the ones we have today, for instance the mistrust between Africans from the Continent and those from the
The
I am still discovering the truth. You read books like The Black Jacobins [by C.L.R. James] and it gives you so much inspiration. You look at the suffering that the Haitians went through and somebody was telling me on a recent visit to the States – I can’t vouch for this statement, but he said that, as we speak, Haitians are still paying a debt to the French government relating to slavery and independence, because of treaties signed by leaders at that time to gain their freedom. It’s similar to what is happening in
Z - It reminds me of the debt in
EA – It’s a complete mess. When you start to learn about slavery, you realise how little you know. There is so much to know. It’s unbelievable. And we are not writing enough. We are not doing enough to help redress the balance. We are not doing enough to get the young people really interested. This generation needs to do a bit more.
Z - How did you get involved in Centerprise?
EA – I was fortunate enough to get a job here as Finance Officer in 1990 and eventually, I become a director. And literature is what we do here. Storytelling and writing are very African. That is our tradition. It’s something I enjoy, and I read a lot.
I have come across discrimination, especially from the powers-that-be at
In 1999 or 2000, we were given six weeks’ notice that they were going to close our centre down. We were able to save a bit of our funding. So from that, we made up our minds to diversify our funding base. It was the last time we were going to rely on the Council. So from the heady days of nearly £200,000, this year, we had less than £10,000 from the Council.
We have become stronger. We have developed the businesses, we are wholly independent. And they don’t like that one bit!
The Neighbourhood Renewal Strategy was developed by central government for communities and the Councils to work together. So they created a separate fund, and there is a separate committee to deal with it. If you go to a committee meeting at
I was on that committee, along with another colleague of mind, and because of our outspokenness, they removed us.
Centerprise is discriminated against because it is Black-led. We are always under the cosh. If this organisation were a white-led institution, it would be awash with funds. Some people describe the Town Hall as a citadel of racism.
We do get some support from the Arts Council. We are the leaders of Black literature in
Z - Tell me about Wordpower, the festival that is coming up.
EA – We are looking at the Bicentenary. If we don’t take it, what’s going to happen? A lot of dancing and so forth. The whole year will go away and nothing of substance will have happened.
So we decided to introduce this festival. There is not enough material from Black British writers. Robin Walker’s book, When We Ruled, we need more of those. We need more people like yourself writing our stories, writing our history.
We hope the festival will become an annual event. It’s for people of African descent. We make no apologies. So that this can become a forum for debate, discussions, and promotion of African history and culture.
People write to me and say that the very idea that we have planned it is a success in itself. John LaRose of New Beacon Books, of blessed memory, used to run something similar, and after ten years, he gave it up. But during the time that he was with us, I always asked him to put on one last one, so that it was handed over to another generation to carry it on. But unfortunately, he was not well enough, and he passed away.
I just thought to myself, there cannot be a more opportune time than this so-called commemoration of the Bicentenary. And the response has been tremendous. There has been a lot of interest all over the African diaspora – the
We hope it becomes an annual thing so that it will show that we have people of outstanding academic and literary talent. And the young ones will have something they can look up to. It’s not only music. It’s not only football. We have serious academics. By bringing all these people together, we hope something very positive will come out of it for the school children, for the universities, for ordinary people – you don’t have to have a degree to be able to write. You don’t have to have a PhD to know your history.
So this is what the whole thing is about. It is a month of activities in
It’s got to have an economic impact as well. A lot of people are not aware of the other Black publishers, in the
The potential is there. The more publishers that come, the more business we will create. And if those people that we supply can do more business, we will do more business as well. So it’s win/win. The potential is enormous.
So this is what the whole thing is about. Not only the cultural aspect, but the economic aspect is very, very important. And it’s about time. We run the local carnival as well, and this year, we got peanuts from the local authority. But from our resources, we were able to put on a great show. And we should be able to stand on our feet.
I am not saying don’t go for funding. I am saying don’t rely on funding. You have to be doing things to uplift yourself. The sky’s the limit.
How many Black bookshops are there in
They are coming up on the spoken word scene. We need to encourage that more. If they see things like a writers’ festival, book fairs, they are bound to take interest in that. In doing so, we uplift them the ghettoes or wherever they are. So that is what Wordpower is about.